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I thought about posting this in /b/ but figured I'd get more real responses here.

This idea is kind of inspired by the "need to get a Bible" thread. There's quite a bit of biblical discussion on pol as of late, so why not pick some passages and discuss them?

Considering the time of year, with Easter coming up, I thought, why not talk about Isaiah 53 and its fulfillment later on in the gospels. I'll add my comments later once I have time, but if this gets enough traction, make it a weekly thing
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Psalm 91 is my favorite.
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2 Thessalonians 2:3-7
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Amen. I'll go ahead and share photos of my Bible, it's beloved to me.
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I'm also partial to Joshua 10:14 because of the dramatic wording of it
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All of these verses are so profound and I feel such an immense sense of peace after reading them. I'd love to read more if you're willing to share.
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there are only a few I remember off the top of my head and it's mostly because they're so dramatic, like Matthew 26:64. I like the ominous but also kinda cocky "you have said it", and John 19:30's "It is finished"
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concerning Christ's last words on the cross there have been a number of oratorios written on them*, my fave's by Franck
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I'd actually love to see this thread grow and share this sort of stuff weekly. Feel free everyone to share your favorite Bible passages and anything related to it. This thread made me feel good.
as a final quote for today I had the quote but had to look it up because I didn't remember the chapters, etc; it's Revelation 21:5, the phrase "see, I am making everything new!" or close to it.
I love how OP was like
>Hey guys, let's discuss Isaiah 53

And then literally nobody did and the thread is now post your favorite Bible verse and no intelligent discussion whatsoever. This is why everyone thinks you Christians are retarded
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I mean, I can post my favorite verse too and tell the op to fuck off for trying to actually have a real discussion. This is why nobody posts on the boards here. 

John 11:35

Because just like all of you, Jesus is a giant bitch
I sincerely pity you.
Thread is only a day old, quitcher bitchin
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>>5119 (OP) 
read moar learn moar
Lamo (op)
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So I will reveal myself so that you know from whom you are hearing.

Here is my response to Isaiah 53

Jesus fulfills the Messianic prophecy in Isaiah 53 by being beaten and crucified for no crime. He also as he's being beaten and carrying his cross keeps his mouth shut when insulted. He fulfills literally every tenement of the prophecy of the messiah's death to a t. If you don't believe Jesus is the Messiah after the events surrounding his death, then you need to find a new religion. It's why Jews have various Messiah watches throughout passover every year. It's because they missed the mark. Oddly enough , the word sin comes from archery, missing the mark. Has to do with self improvement more than evil nature

stop being an ass.

cry harder, if you have nothing constructive to add, just idk, don't engage. We're trying to be civil here
This Week reading is Matthew 5-7 and Luke 6. As I did last week, I will add my commentary a little bit later
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Jesus fulfilled the law with his sermon on the mount and on the plain. He proved both Daniel and Isaiah correct with his teachings, He also pissed off the government officials while doing it. Sound like something happening now? Antichrist watch maybe? Seeing as it is Palm Sunday  this weeks reading is John chapter 12. You will see why Isaiah 53 was suggested before.
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>Sound like something happening now?
not really, not at all
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Pathetic agnostic fool. The OP merely suggested a verse. We're having mature discussion and exhanging thoughts on our beliefs.

Atheists are such drama queens. Such bullies. You take every opportunity to put people with religious beliefs down and call them stupid. Get a life.

Bro, look at what's happening to Trump. He's the knight in shining armor coming to save the day, being crucified by the leftist media and the deep state
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ooooh, we're goofing, sorry
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Goofing?You think Trump is some saint?
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Uuuuh I'm not the one who suggested that idea
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elaborate what you think is goofing then instead of just shitposting and not adding anything to the conversation
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I was being dead serious... maybe intellectual conversation isn't your strong point.
>Trump is a knight in shining armor
>You think Trump is some saint?
>I was being dead serious
Huh. Nevermind then, by all means continue with your thread and forgive/forget my meddling.
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he isn't the antichrist, but he's definitely one of the false prophets. My money is on Zelensky
It's resurrection sunday Matthew 28 is the reading
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God isn't real you idiots. If he really loved you, he'd want you to be independent, rely on each other more and not rely on the idea he'll save you when doing so would undermine the free will he supposedly gave you anyway.

Either god isn't real and you've been misled by a longrunning grift whose purpose was to amass people in a common in-group larger than direct p2p social interaction could allow for, or he wants you to become an atheist and would forgive you for being a good one at that anyway.
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Forgot to say, comfy bible thread tho. Love all of you <3
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you clearly haven't read the Bible or don't understand it if you think you can deny God's existence and still get into heaven. That's literally said in the Bible that if you do not acknowledge Jesus as the son of God, you will not go to heaven. Now, if you're an atheist, none of this matters to you because us believing in a "sky fairy" keeps us in line and behaving in society instead of being reprobates.
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My take on Matthew 28 

There is historical evidence of a great quake during the passover the year Jesus died. There were customs for burials that because of the sabbath, they had to wait until monday to go care for the body in the tomb. When the women arrived the body was not there. Many eye witness accounts from the soldiers said nobody was there to steal the body and there was no way the stone could have been moved. So either they were covering their asses and there's a lie being perpetuated by hundreds of people colluding together for a man who was hated by the general public, or Jesus rose from the dead. 

Jesus appeared to his disciples and preached to them, informed them of their futures and gave them their great commission to bear witness of what they had seen so that others may believe and see the kingdom of heaven. 

This  was the culmination of the promise Jesus gave to his disciples, that he would make them fisher's of men.

The Next reading is Acts 7. 

We have posters from all over the world but I believe a good majority of the people here are American. I point this out only because we are seeing a rise in America of joining a lot of the western world in roughly 30% of the population being openly atheist. 

Now, America 20 years ago polls stated roughly 5%, now it's at 30%. So, some questions to think about while reading acts 7. In the time Stephen was preaching, at least in the region he was in, Judaism was just part of the culture. Similarly to how for a long time, Christianity was a part of American culture, or if you want to go further back in time, Italy, England, Germany, France, etc. 

Every culture seems to go on a path that is, paganism>their deity>Reformation>Schism>Gnosticism>Atheism 

We appear in America to be on the Gnosticism part right now, because that's the blending of pagan and deist rituals, and is leading to the rise of atheism. 

Look at what Stephen had to deal with from the sanhedrin, who were the leaders of the law at the time, and look at the similarities in how Christians are being treated by our current government. 

Now, I am not saying we are being persecuted, per se, but there are similarities, and the book of Acts is the guide for the Church. It explains how we should operate, interact with the public, and such. It is not a direct parallel, but some are there

I appreciate your comments. I like having an open discussion. I enjoy speaking to those of other faiths or no faith at all to get a clearer picture of what the world is. I truly believe the established religion of Christianity is imperfect and never will be entirely good, because humans are involved and we are not perfect and have free will. 

I condemn things like covering up molesting children "for the sake of the image of the church." It makes you look worse. Rebuke them, replace them, and make it known that isn't tolerated. Problem is, there are a lot of people involved in churches who are Priests, Ministers, Preachers, who are doing it to fulfill their own personal desires and may not even be Christians at all. I have met atheist catholic bishops before, and they were only open to telling me they were an atheist because I'm a protestant and our word means nothing if they were brought against an arch diocese council.

I digress, feel free to read along and debate or dispute anything said here, I love a healthy discussion and an echo chamber is not healthy as we can see in modern politics worldwide.
God's Grace is greater, stronger, and more important than all the words in the Bible.
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Yes. But the Bible also says those who deny Christ will not see the kingdom of heaven. Rather be safe than sorry when spreading the word, err on the side of caution, ya know?

Even those who cry Lord Lord but did not follow his commands will be missed. His grace extends to all, but there are terms.
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There are no terms to God's Grace. You don't get to set limits to it.
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God set the limits. James chapter 4 is a good read to explain this

Judgment is what we deserve
Mercy is not getting what we deserve
Grace is getting what we don't deserve. 

However, Jesus himself said 21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’

Matthew 7:21-23

There are limits to his grace.

Exodus 7:6 "Let my people go, that they may serve me" 

Grace is freedom, but there are rules. 

John 3:16 sets rules for receiving God's grace.

Jude 4 talks about turning God's grace into a license for evil. 

For certain men have crept in unnoticed, who long ago were marked out for this condemnation, ungodly men, who turn the grace of our God into lewdness and deny the only Lord God and our Lord Jesus Christ.

So God already did this
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yet God's Grace remains untouched, and unlimited
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Fine, go murder and rape people and then say sorry Jesus at night before you go to sleep.
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It is disappointing that that's as far as your appreciation for Grace takes you, but it will be well.
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Jesus himself says go and sin no more. Acting like grace has no limits means there's no reason to be christlike, which is in complete conflict with scripture. If you had any solid arguments to back up what you were saying, I might actually come to some middle ground, but instead you're sources are "trust me bro." When it comes to God, I trust no man, only his word. Have a nice day :D
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all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be wel
So as I: said earlier, Acts 7 shows the persecution and stoning of Stephen. Are we as Christians willing to hold our faith to the point of death?

This weeks reading is Matthew 18:15-19

It is about holding each other accountable in a just and righteous way
Daniel is one of the more important books of the Bible as it gives a look to the end of the kingdom.
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